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I’ve cooked and eaten tofu that was acceptable, and tempeh that was slightly better. I’ve never had tofu that came anywhere close to plain chicken breast—just salted and fried—in terms of taste, let alone something I’d call extremely tasty.

So, I guess, question is, how do you make extremely tasty tofu? Do you have to get some tofu that is not available in Europe?


> how do you make extremely tasty tofu

Marinades, breading, spices... even better if [broth, spices, vegetables...] are added in the mix before tofu coagulation. Some shops sell those but not very common.

Tempeh on the other hand is easier to elevate because the fungus "sip" marinades very quickly. If one day you find yourself in the way to cook some again don't be shy to give it your cooking love : paprika+garlic+thyme+oliveOil / coconut+curry+lime / pepper+cheese+cream. Tempeh is very adaptable and forgiving. Can be boiled, fried, poached (better when fresh), bbq...

In my humble experience a very good taste is achieved in ~5 min like so:

- mix 1/2 soy sauce + 1/2 neutral oil. Slice or dice the tempeh and dip or surround with sauce for >10sec

- pan for a few minutes with some oil. It can be eaten raw but it's better with a crust

- serve with thym and pepper on top


If you don't like tofu you're not going to like it. I vastly prefer it to chicken, which I find unpleasant, and I don't even like tofu that much.


Is there any evidence that those are any healthier? If I'm going to overeat the same amount of calories eating store-bought cookies or grandma-made cookies - is my health outcome any different?


Depends on where you are. There's food additives that are used in the US that are forbidden in Europe [1]

> The E.U. says that if they can’t dismiss the possibility of harm, they can’t find an additive safe,” Galligan says. In the U.S., the bar is much lower; companies can add new ingredients to their foods without even informing the FDA. “In the U.S., it feels like the FDA is waiting to act until harm is definitely proven,” says Galligan.

[1] https://time.com/7210717/food-additives-us-fda-banned-europe...


Yes.

Look into the process used to make soybean oil vs the process used to make butter.


I'm not sure how is that relevant. My guess would be that saturated fat in butter is worse for health outcome.


We're talking about what makes ultra processed foods unhealthy - the process used to make each ingredient is exactly what is relevant.


Absolutely. calories dont tell you much.


So what's the evidence? I couldn't find anything. What do they not tell? I assume that macros in homemade and bought cookies are roughly the same.


Why is that a reason to cheer up? When I think about it, I’m miserable most of the time—and knowing that life was even worse for most people throughout history only makes me feel sadder.


Turn that around and ask yourself why that's a reason to be miserable. Your sadness is a choice. Be miserable if you want to but that won't improve the circumstances for yourself or anyone else.


I think he was being sarcastic. But on the internet you can't really tell.

Adopt absurdism. Nothing really matters and it's grotesquely hilarious at the same time. That might cheer you up. Occasionally.


Not sarcastic. Only people who are ignorant about history believe that things are really bad today. If you live in an industrialized country that isn't in the middle of a shooting war then things are objectively pretty awesome compared to the average conditions that humans have endured.


Only ignorant people think individuals can find comfort in averages.

Recently I heard Neil Degrasse Tyson saying that people came up with averages more recently than with calculus. It's not something people find relevant naturally.


> Recently I heard Neil Degrasse Tyson saying that people came up with averages more recently than with calculus. It's not something people find relevant naturally.

Whoa now. That may be true within a strict scope of the "arithmetic mean" definition of "average", however, the idea of average as a 'concept' is much older. As an easy example, early references to agrarian yields (crop farming and how much food they produce) talk about average size of crop harvests, etc. Early tablets from Mesopotamia talk about average yield size, and those are dated 700ish BC.


Apostasy is not that quick or easy. Depending on a country the church can fight you on that.


Any example?


From this post I'm not sure which of two parties is the one.


Are you joking? Democrats cannot resist pointing out that the founding fathers owned slaves, while the GOP basically treats them as saints.


So now even fruits are not healthy? Are leafy greens the only food category we can eat without feeling guilty?


I'm rather thin and fit. I eat mostly healthy food with some unhealthy indulgences from time to time (cold cuts, fatty cheese, bread, croissant from a bakery). I eat controlled portions so I don't lose or gain weight. I'm hungry all the time and quite miserable. I spend most of my wake time thinking about the next meal. What life choice should I make?


Same issue for me, but I do overeat because otherwise I cannot think.

I go to the gym extensively, and yet I struggle to just maintain my weight

I eat very healthy, I just eat too much.


I scrape all of the food, wine and beer recommendations that I find and display them on a map in a web app. I can see the list of all of the places that are closest to me: restaurants, wineries, ice cream parlors, breweries and so on. If the source of the recommendation scores places or products made by it it's part of the data and I can filter by the score. I probably spent many weeks working in it. I'd love to make it a business but I have no idea how to approach the legality of it. I use it all the time because I travel a lot.


Do you have any concerns about TVP being ultra-processed?

> For example, you'd dump it into a bolognese pasta sauce instead of ground beef and it comes out the same.

In my experience it comes out, kind of, edible but slight disgusting, with grassy, soy aftertaste and spongy texture.


Why? Why it's not better to enjoy why it lasts?


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